One word describes the Model 70: Practi-cool! My Remington Model 700 .30-06 is a biased rifle towards me, or it is a poorly made rifle (Remingtons are good, but this one is no good)! Dan – how far out were you for those groups? Nevertheless, this reviewer could find no mention among government documents verifying the veracity of that rumor. I don’t know if the new production M70’s retain the two pre-drilled/tapped screw holes on the left side of the receiver for Williams/Redfield/Lyman peeps. WARNING for California Residents WARNING: Discharging firearms in poorly ventilated areas, cleaning firearms, or handling ammunition may result in exposure to lead and other substances known to the State of California to cause birth defects, reproductive harm, and other serious physical injury. Those things are $109 over a MidwayUSA and are a solid scope for the money. They have been on back-order since Jan. It’s lamentable the new and improved Winchester Model 70 isn’t chambered practi-cool is a MUCH better term and has functionality rather than the cringe worthy term of “tacti-cool”. The rifle also just felt very solid. Been using Norma brass Remington large rifle primer and IMR 4831 pushing Nosler 140 grain partitions right at 2,800. The cartridge demonstrated high performance at the time of its introduction and was marketed as being suitable for big game shooting in the 270 to 460 metres (300 to 500 yd) range, when that was considered long range hunting. Those people have never had to lug gear five miles to a tree-stand. Would love to have one. I also installed a Pachmayr decelarator. son, Looks like late 1966, according to Winchester. I own a dozen model 70s. I own quite few rifles and was a friend of Jack O,Connor. As far as I’m concerned, the pre-64 Winchester, especially those made in the early 50’s, are the best of the hunting bolt guns until you get into custom rifles. Since one could see and be confronted by dangerous game such as tigers and leopards even when hunting antelope, I once had a tiger cross a trail in front of me at 10 yards while carrying a twenty-two, both my father and I felt it was time for me to have a larger caliber rifle. Like I said, lots of problems with this article. People who really tighten down the middle screw can alter the ability of the rifle to put down good groups. For game hunting in standard hunting, I’m no engineer, so I decided to forego delving into the technical aspects of the rifles and instead focus on comparing their fit, finish, and feel. It turned out fine, though I will tell you that welding will make a piece of metal curl up like a potato chip if you aren’t very careful. sincerely If there was an uploader on this website to upload photos, I would show all my pictures of my zeros and MOAs of all my rifles. I wouldn’t trade it for the world it has been my go to rifle since 1991. Knowing what I know now if I was to resume center fire hunting I would buy the lightest rifle possible, probably a single shot like the TC, and put a decent scope on it and call it a done deal. The Winchester Model 70 is a fine rifle. This is a Marlin Glenfield Model 60 chambered in .22LR. Spain, Mexico, Central America, and half of South American governments. Hello But again, why so damned Except for power drill to drill the holes for the action screws. (Actually I may have to check that, it may be a ’06 model but it is a FN made M70) It has the exact same action and bolt as my FN SPR A1. I put a Dakota grip cap on the pistol grip but left it unblued. Ask some of the fellows that Gunny Hathcock reached out to, Oohh cool thanks man I also saw on the history channel they where going through sniper rifles and all and they mentioned that the Model 70 served in Vietnam and special forces used it. I just love these guns. . Hell this gun was 60-some years old when I was still in diapers. 70s. Armies with 7mm Mauser bolt action rifles to arm soldiers. Could you post some torque specs for those screws? I went to check the zero on it, and I could not zero it. corect configuration REVIEW THE DAMN GUNS – keep your gutter mind to yourself. Yeah, I want one (Two actually, in diff calibers). my dads is a 1963 modle feather wt. Both the original and current Model 70s gets A+’s across the board. I was sitting over a hot prairie dog town in Wyoming, evaluating the then-new Sauer Model 100 bolt rifle, with multiple rifles available to the group of us writers in both .223 Remington and its older brother, the .222 Remington.The Sauer 100 is an accurate rifle, and we were having no trouble stacking those prairie dogs at all sorts of ranges. Shoots better than me. If the Model 70 sported an adjustable comb and LOP it would be flawless.” Aggressive?? So I have come up with a conclusion and buying Browning xbolt in 270. unless some one knows something different Winchester Model 70 is only made in right handed bolt….Correct? Holds zero all year (pig season in CA) long. Jerry Canada. I had tried similar offerings from Remington, but they felt cheap and their actions weren’t nearly as smooth. I’d guess that with a slick barrel with no front sight that there’s no provision for peeps without taking it to a ‘smith for mounting a front sight as well. I have a JOC .270, a .257 Roberts, 30-06, the rest are .243. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. At the time, I would not be deprived of mine, so I cut and welded the thing back together. Dealers, buyers, and serious riflemen seem to have a decided preference for the Model 70. Hmmm, makes me wonder about the pre 64’s, that are revered by so many. My grandfather bought me a Model 70 308 for my first deer hunt at 14 on the mesa in Colorado. The CRPFS is basically the Post-1964 Winchester Model 70 action with the lower portion of its bolt face ground flat. Forget everything but the action, bolt and trigger. I’m so glad I own these rifles, they are not apple to apple shooters, but coin to coin shooters! http://www.winchesterguns.com/content/dam/winchester-repeating-arms/support/faq/serial-number-reference/Winchester-Manufacture-Dates-by-Year-2012-Scanned-Documents.pdf. I sold it, and I never even owned it for a week. The rear sight on the pre-64 M70’s were dovetailed into a feature on the barrel known either as the “wedding band” or “the egg.” Today’s M70’s barrel profiles are smooth from receiver face to muzzle. I’m glad to see that the 70 retains a pretty decent amount of its classic charm. Lastly, while it never saw standard issuance, the Mod 70 did indeed see some military use as a sniper rifle, even though many people are only aware of the Rem M700 seeing this use. wow. the 7mm Mauser or 7×57 was formerly the standard military caliber of Today’s M70’s got rid of the crappy finish and they now used cut (albeit machine cut) checkering instead of the pressed-in checkering, and their finish is vastly improved. I have a model 70 Winchester ultra light and am having difficulty putting the safety off and on. I’m making average L1400 a month. Another potentially interesting TTAG review ruined with dumb, snarky writing. (Thanks Salute Products!). Thank you for all the information you have in this website . The bolts on Remingtons are better and I love a quiet easy two stage trigger. I love the Model 70 and truly wanted to buy in 270 unfortunately I am left handed. I love this model 70, my grandfather has this type of gun and he always cleans it and oils it. That’s the path I am taking with the Classic Featherweight in 6,5×55 SE for my Grandson Jameson Brooks Barnett. There are few Model 70s out there with that. And the Ruger M77 Mark II (NOT the Hawekeyes) Stainless Steel finish is the king of kings of all Stainless Steel rifles! But I very rarely fired more than 2 shots at a given animal. Either of these choices should do very well on your .243 Win. This isn’t a man up comment… but a person needs to learn how to shoot a hunting rifle with a very common cartridge first, before feeling qualified to make such a comment. (1939-1945). It is not hand made like my pre-war one is but it’s is an outstanding rifle. Cheers! The Featherweight setup won’t do anything to soak up recoil, but you’ll be praising the weight of this bolt-action rifle when you carry that 10-pointer back to your truck. Scopes could be mounted, but most all 70’s I’ve seen prior to ’64 had iron sights from the factory. Winchester will offer several variations of its XPR and Model 70 series rifles, all with three-round capacities because of … …and I didn’t even get into my thoughts on the authors comments referencing a sex lubricant when trying to describe the old rifles action. The bottom metal on the Classic is one piece. Does that accurately describe it? in 7mm Mauser (7×57); this perhaps remains the finest dual purpose deer/ model 70 was introduced in 1936 not 1927 that’s a Winchester model 52 . I was impressed; the gun isn’t balanced like a fine over/under shotgun, but it points easily. I always got Sub-MOA with all my Rugers; Ruger M77 Mark II .223 Remington, Ruger M77 Mark II .270 Winchester, Ruger M77 Mark II .30-06 Springfield, Ruger M77 Mark II .338 Winchester Magnum, and last but not least, Ruger M77 All Weather .22 Hornet (best on the .22 Hornet was 1″ MOA), and all my rifles are always Stainless Steel, because I’m from Alaska where it is cold, humid, and winter most of the year, and the black finish rifles rust easily in Alaska. cartridges consists of (l. to r.): .270 Win., .270 WSM and 6.8 mm Western. You are probably the guy to ask this question: what are the comparisons between the M70, the Remington 700 and the Savage action/barrels? Gotta admit, that Winchester M70 is looking pretty good. Absolutely perfect. With modern bullets and optics, it is easily a 1,000 yard cartridge. Winchester is one of those weapons that fit certain people that allows them to make above amazing shots and do some amazing shooting and that is with a standard bolt riffle action.30 cal The bolt knob and forearm feature aggressive yet handsome checkering. I traded a 9mm pistol for it. I’ve owned a model 70 Lightweight for since the early 90s. All they needed to do was raise their price a bit to keep up with inflation and then market their rifle as being a step up from the other stuff in the market, particularly the Rem 700. Seasons and limits allowed much more use of shotguns than center fire rifles. This writer is clueless. The first day I went to zero it (summer time in Alaska), it already rusted up on the barrel. Model 94. I will say that it might have been worthy to actually do a comparison of the two models triggers and then even mention something at all about what the trigger felt like on the current production rifle. I have a Winchester Model 70 .308 heavy varmint barrel… Serial no. What can I say here, this writer doesn’t get it, and it seems obvious to me they aren’t a hunter either when I read comments about “carrying” game from the field. I am only 80 years old and love to shoot a versatile caliber. This is the dream. The trigger was such a trigger creep! I called the maker of these (I can’t remember the brand now) and told them of the issue so they might have started making them by now. The newer Model 70 is fitted with a Zeiss using S & K bases and rings. It did. The current rifles workmanship is exceptional. Common bullet weight recommendations for shooting different game are as follows: Recent introductions of low-drag bullets suited to the .270 Winchester such as the Nosler Accubond Long-Range, Hornady ELD-X and Matrix long range bullets are promoting renewed interest in the cartridge among long range hunters. The front should be tight, the rear snug “enough” but the middle screw should be just snug enough to keep it from backing out. When I put the cross hairs on a deer and pull the trigger, we’re eating meat. It can easily run $450.00. [5][6] It drives an 8.4 grams (130 gr) bullet at approximately 960 m/s (3,140 ft/s), later reduced to 930 m/s (3,060 ft/s). This page was last edited on 26 May 2021, at 13:33. This rifle has served me well for many years and still is a joy to shoot. It is though heavier than my .45 Long Colt Ruger Vaqueros,of which I had a matched set, until I decide I preferred the single holster set up. mine is a pre-64 action stainless with a 24 in. You also never mentioned the Pachmayr Decelerator recoil pad that helps to mitigate felt recoil. Naturally this is a semi-automatic rifle featuring a 22” micro groove barrel with visible rifling and a 1:16 twist rate. However, the same rifle in .338 Win Mag is advertised at 7.75 pounds and 46.75″ long overall (because it has a 26″ barrel instead of a 24″ barrel like the 325 WSM rifle). I served in the US army and I could have sworn that the M70 served in the Vietnam war special forces snipers I thought used it. http://www.americanrifleman.org/ArticlePage.aspx?id=2046&cid=3, http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/detail.asp?family=001C&mid=535109, http://www.gunblast.com/images/FN-PBR/DSC04231.jpg, http://huntforever.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/5-jrs.jpg, http://www.winchesterguns.com/content/dam/winchester-repeating-arms/support/faq/serial-number-reference/Winchester-Manufacture-Dates-by-Year-2012-Scanned-Documents.pdf. Cartridges are commonly available from 6.5 to 10.4 grams (100 to 160 gr) sizes with 8.4-and-9.7-gram (130 and 150 gr) loads being by far the most popular. Winchester also went from nice woodwork (nice checkering, such as you see above) to pressed checkering, covered with high-gloss, sprayed-on finish. Why not “keep it simple stupid!”. It’s an absolutely wonderful rifle with a lot of history (it’s been handed down through three generations of family). My Win 70 .30-06 will group 5 rounds into about 1 1/2 inches with the ocasional 3 round group at 3/4 of an inch or less. Skill and talent isn’t what get the job done it is a great bid blessing from GOD ALMIGHTY of LUCK You fire that round off right when every thing was in your favor. With any of my Ruger rifles, if you want to shoot a seal in the eye at 100 yards, you will hit it in the eye guaranteed. Custom stockmakers did a booming business in post-64 rifles. The bottom metal on the post-64 M70’s went to an aluminum floor plate and trigger loop, and as I’ve said before: One of the requirements of a “nice gun” is that there be no aluminum on the gun – anywhere. The crown on the older rifle is not as sharp but I doubt that has to do with inferior craftsmanship and more to do with decades of wear and tear. I’d recommend a Redfield Revolution, or a Leupold VX-1, either in 3-9×40. There ya go. It is a beautiful gun and I have taken nearly three dozen deer with it. Then sell the stock right handed stock! I am 72 so you know how old my Model 70 is today. My M70 is a post 2006 model made by FN and it has the CRPF bolt. I don’t know about all this controlled round feed, controlled round with push feed, etc., I just know it has jammed on a couple of occasions — using the same type of ammo for 20 years. I shot my first deer and thankfully the scope and rifle made up for my inexperience. Boom, eye-shot you! Synthetic stocks are not my thing and I do not think they hold up any better. 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